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What's Your Views On Drugs?
 
# 46 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 15:51
 
 
Someone said :
If you're using illegal drugs, it does have an effect on people's lives.

That's a bit of a generalisation and not strictly true.
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# 47 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 15:55
 
 
Someone said :
Not everything in the headshops was safe. How would decriminalisation of possession tackle drug addiction?

It doesn't, not directly.
What it does is stop people getting criminal records for simply using drugs which in turn prevents them from getting jobs, travelling a and lots of other stuff.
It also saves money on policing impossible laws which can be used to help those addicted.
Further legalising all drugs would save more lives and the tax could be used to help those addicted.

Thankfully the war on drugs is all but over and people are realising that the way forward is legalisation.
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# 48 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 16:00
 
 
Someone said :

If you're using illegal drugs, it does have an effect on people's lives.

How?
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# 49 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 16:04
 
 
Someone said :

That's a bit of a generalisation and not strictly true.

You're right. It may be a slight generalisation. But it's definitely not true to say that taking illegal drugs has no effect on anyone. The illegal drug market is a black market and any black market has negative effects on the people involved, including crime and gang killings.

(By the way, I'm very pro legalisation for just this reason.)
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# 50 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 16:08
 
 
Actually there are plenty of illegal drugs that people take daily that have not one single effect on anyone else.
Maybe when you hear 'illegal drugs' you automatically think of heroin or cocaine, yet there are hundreds of substances that are illegal in Ireland that are legal in other countries.
Ireland has the highest percentage of cannabis smokers in the EU according to recent studies. A huge amount of cannabis is home grown, meaning there is no crime other than the illegal growing/possession.
Not everything on the black market involves shady characters and violence.
There are plenty of drugs users taking illegal drugs that do not effect anyone else.
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# 51 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 16:11
 
 
Yeah, I did mean the hardcore ones since Polo excluded weed from his original question.
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# 52 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 16:13
 
 
There are a lot more drugs other than 'weed'
Most of them do not have effects on other people.

The internet is one of the biggest sources of drugs these days, people can order direct from the source without people getting harmed.
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# 53 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 17:50
 
 
Please tell me about MDMA, those in the know. Is it dangerous in its non-adulterated form? (I ask because a friend recently revealed he's started taking it and I'm wondering if I should be worried.)
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# 54 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:10
 
 
You should be worried if he is not testing it with multiple reagents testing kits as there are a lot of Research chemicals being sold as MDMA, some more dangerous than others.
Regardless of where they are getting it from then need to test it.
Anyone considering taking drugs should first invest in testing kits to help rule out other drugs.

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# 55 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:15
 
 
Each generation rejects the mores of its predecessors (at least in the West since 1789). So outlawing it has an equal but opposite reaction. It's possible regulation would make it less "cool" in the eyes of wayward youth, taking away the tendency to take drugs to make a rebellious statement. On the other hand it's equally possible this will only spawn a new act of "rebellion" in the form of breaking the regulations.

Also remember the head-shops (now banned I think) that were selling drugs in the guise of "bath salts" - some of which seem to have been targeted for arson either by angry locals or druglords fearful of losing business. So there is also a danger that could happen to places legally selling drugs as they have the potential to economically ruin illegal drug dealers.

I don't favour an absolute free for all. But I do think medicinal cannabis should be allowed for Parkinson's sufferers as many say it reduces pain. Even some conservatives in the GOP are coming around to this view in the US.
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# 56 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:19
 
 
Someone said :

Not really, most people who go out and take a few pills at the weekend enjoy themselves and don't bother anyone else. Same as the majority of drinkers are repsonsible.

One could argue that it's a spectrum and that by condoning one you are enabling others to use and potentially become addicts. Not to mention recreational drug users are funding the same gangs who sell heroin. or maybe everyone is responsible for their own affairs. I'm not sure.
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# 57 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:24
 
 
Someone said :
There are a lot more drugs other than 'weed'
Most of them do not have effects on other people.

The internet is one of the biggest sources of drugs these days, people can order direct from the source without people getting harmed.

I'm skeptical, to be honest. Black markets, even online black markets, consistently have negative effects on people. Now, I do think the drug laws are more to blame than the users. But it strikes me as naive to say that a pill bought on the street or online doesn't affect anyone else. If it's black market, it almost certainly does. The pill/drug has to come from somewhere.
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# 58 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:26
 
 
Someone said :

You can test drugs and figure out whats safe New Zeeland recently adopted a policy for regulating head shops


Yeah maybe if the head shops were regulated and only sold tested drugs from regulated pharmaceutical companies that could be okay. But I wonder does it facilitate harder drug use by normalising drug use. Would it be right to tell junkies to get their shit together while selling other drugs across the street.
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# 59 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:35
 
 
Internet drugs: do they come from places where the drugs are legal or do they come from the same gangs who supply irish drug dealers? Is your order online causing harm to someone in bolivia or wherever?
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# 60 : Friday 26-9-2014 @ 18:52
 
 
It depends on the drug.
The most popular drugs these days come from labs in china.
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