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Trafficking Drugs As Peru-sual, Or Unfair Peru-jailing?
 
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# 1 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 12:39
 
 
Plain and simple, do you believe in the "they made me do it" argument?

The only thing I believed from their story from the word go is that they were briefed on what to say in case they were arrested. And that was to play the kidnap card...#

I do not believe for a second that traffickers need to be that elaborate.
Her story will not last the week.


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# 2 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 12:59
 
 
Far fetched but let's wait and see. Foreigners trafficking drugs is reportedly rampant in Peru and the authorities take a very hard line according to reports on the radio in recent days. I heard that an amnesty is unlikely because there were allegations of corruption in a previous one where officials were accused of charging for it illegally and this is still being investigated.
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# 3 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 13:04
 
 
But do you believe for a second she was forced to do it under duress?
Or rather she decided to do it to settle her drug debt?

Former option: she is a rather dumb victim, as she could easily tell someone while passing controls.

Latter option: she is a willing accomplice. She did not mind accumulating that debt and she did not feel it was appropriate to tell on her creditors.

I think she watched too many films but read too few books...
Her imagination might be so limited, she thought that story was credible.

The key question is: why bother deploying such a web of control and deception when hundreds of mules are willing to do that job.
It is much simpler to see it for what it is: she chose to be a mule.


And why should an "Amnesty" be considered?
Not needed if she is innocent. (=She did not do it freely and willingly)
If she is guilty, she deserves to serve the sentence! (She did it knowing what she was doing, under the pressure of her drug dealers but not under their imperious and inescapable control)
It is not like she was an innocent flower who was unwittingly forced to traffic drugs, while she knew nothing about drugs before leaving for her holiday...

The only thing she deserves from consular services, is the basic support to ensure her trial is fair, and her sentenced is served in acceptable conditions as regards the local standards.
(She chose to be a mule in Peru, not in Dublin, she cannot expect a Dublin trial or jail...)
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# 4 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 13:40
 
 
I'm inclined to agree with you Blah. She broke the law in Peru, she should serve the sentence.
It's not the death penalty and it's not life.
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# 5 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 14:28
 
 
I don't believe their story for a second but I feel terribly sorry for them to be honest. They are two naive kids who have undoubtedly been inveigled and manipulated by some fucking yob.

They are barely out of school an the sum of their worldly experience is an extended stay in Ibiza dreaming of modelling stardom and all the other bollocks Teenage girls aspire to.

Don't you remember feeling omnipotent and beyond reproach as a teen. This mistake will mar their lives forever. I can't see how they could possibly get off.


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# 6 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 14:32
 
 
@Maradadi!
I remember being their age, without money in my name.
I knew I was not omnipotent or beyond reproach.

I do not remember being high on drugs, and using drugs that I could not pay for. (Or any drugs for that matter, but if I did I'd have had the money before taking the drugs...)

I remember working hard over the summer to gather a pittance, and knowing that a quick buck is rarely a honest buck.

I do not remember spending my evening with VIP's in Ibiza, or flying to Peru with drugs thinking it was no big deal or that I could get away with it.

I remember being offered less than honest money, and refusing it.
I remember being offered drugs for "free", and refusing it, as I had no interest in becoming addict.
I remember toeing the line, and looking at those who did not without envy. I remember knowing they were heading for trouble.

I feel very little pity to be honest.
They were more worldly than you seem to picture them!
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# 7 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 14:42
 
 
When I was their age I was considerably less naive. Partially because I left home at 17. I did some very silly stuff even so, some of it even illegal. But never anything on this scale.
When I think about it. I think they only difference really between me at that age and them was the scale of the stupidity and the lack of comprehension of the consequences.
I can't help it, I'm just being honest, I feel sorry for them.
They have to be punished, examples must be set and I hope other stupid naive teenage girls pay attention to it and ditch the dreams of easy riches as a result.
It doesn't altar my feelings on the matter though
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# 8 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 14:53
 
 
Deciding to do it, and coming up with such a cock-n-bull story... they knew the consequences very well.
They have worked on building that fantasy. They had plenty of opportunities to get out before it was too late.
They knew the consequences but felt Laws were not for them, because they were so special.

She might be a bit dumb, but I do not see her as an "innocent" victim.
She seems to be victim of her greed, and her chosen lifestyle.

And her parents have a lot to answer for to by the way...
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# 9 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:01
 
 
I feel sorry for them, I reckon they will grow up very fast indeed though.
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# 10 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:04
 
 
Someone said :
I feel sorry for them, I reckon they will grow up very fast indeed though.

Do you also feel sorry for 17-year old drug dealers in Dublin?
They were grown-up! They might have been the reason why an addict close to any of us might get their overdose next week.

I am actually happy they got caught...
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# 11 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:14
 
 
I feel sorry for their parents
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# 12 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:20
 
 
I also feel sorry for Michaella and Melissa.

I don't believe their story that they were kidnapped and forced under duress to mule but I suspect that they were roped in with the offer of £10k and a little holiday in Peru. They were probably spun a line of "sure everyone does it, and with that money you'll be able to keep clubbing in Ibiza all summer long, and if you get caught just tell the police you were forced." There might been some coercion once they got to Peru and saw the amount of coke they had to mule and may have got cold feet.

They were both very naive and gullible but so are many people at just turned 20.
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# 13 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:45
 
 
Someone said :

Do you also feel sorry for 17-year old drug dealers in Dublin?
They were grown-up! They might have been the reason why an addict close to any of us might get their overdose next week.

I am actually happy they got caught...

Yea, I would feel sorry for them too.
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# 14 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 15:51
 
 
I feel sorry for Mules. They're not as stubborn as they're made out to be.
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# 15 : Sunday 18-8-2013 @ 16:45
 
 
Someone said :
[...]There might been some coercion once they got to Peru and saw the amount of coke they had to mule and may have got cold feet.
[...]

Would that make a difference?
Clutching at straws to introduce the idea of coercion?

Someone said :
[...]
They were both very naive and gullible but so are many people at just turned 20.

How do you think they would have reacted if their parents, or Pennylane, or yourself had had a heart to heart with them and told them how it is?
Do you think you could have dissuaded them to do it?
If they were naive and gullible, surely that would be easy. If they were pride, cunning and greedy, it would be near to impossible.

Not knowing that you cannot bring home-grilled peanuts in Australia is naive.
Mulling drugs in the full knowledge of what they were doing is just plain criminal.
I do not buy the sob stories, and I can see that soon some naive and gullible people will send them money "for their defense".
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