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# 631 : Wednesday 31-5-2017 @ 01:48
 
 
The ruling on asylum seekers and work and their not being allowed to work is unconstitutional affects the common travel area because of course if they can work here they can work in the uk.
Just shows how precarious things are now because if the common travel area ends it directly affects the uk citizens here and Irish there not forgetting the second largest number of uk citizens outside uk in the EU live in Ireland .
Many are pensioners and we don't know what kind of deal there might be but what is certain is that outside a common travel area scenario the situation where they had the same benefits as Irish pensioners will end .
This will be the same for the Irish in the uk.

a hard border is now much more likely.

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# 632 : Wednesday 31-5-2017 @ 02:09
 
 
Third largest.

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# 633 : Wednesday 31-5-2017 @ 10:40
 
 
Someone said :
Third largest.


2nd largest after Spain like I said and they are mainly pensioners
http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/354

According to the United Nations Population Division, the number of British people living in the EU is 1.2 million[1]. (The largest communities are in Spain – 309,000, Ireland – 255,000, France – 185,000 and Germany – 103,000. See Annex A.)
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# 634 : Wednesday 31-5-2017 @ 14:50
 
 
French government has Brits in France at 400,000 not that I care really.

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/dossiers-pays/royaume-uni/presen etc ...
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# 635 : Wednesday 31-5-2017 @ 19:19
 
 
Someone said :
French government has Brits in France at 400,000 not that I care really.

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/dossiers-pays/royaume-uni/presen etc ...

What year is that because the graph you posted is 6 years old
It depends what criteria is used to determine the overall number in each country but that wont change the division spain 1 ireland 2 france 3 etc
The reason the uk calculates the numbers differently to france for example is because many uk citizens resident in france maintain their gp etc in the uk because they want to keep access to the nhs just in case , they stay in a grey area so in france they appear but in the uk they dont show up as non resident or as resident in france .
Youd wonder how their tax system functions ????,
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# 636 : Thursday 1-6-2017 @ 13:21
 
 
Oops U.K. House prices are dropping , third successive drop.
Sky is falling all the brexshitters better not look up
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# 637 : Friday 2-6-2017 @ 12:40
 
 
Someone said :
Oops U.K. House prices are dropping , third successive drop.
Sky is falling all the brexshitters better not look up

Main Brexit pushers probably have business interests that are making huge profits from the current market moves. And they plan on making more each step of the way, whatever the cost to society.

But we have to remember that people vote for it. They had all the information at hand: there is always mis-information, has always been, will always be. From both sides.
But people chose to leave. Now they have to face the music, and they cannot just blame those who told them to leave: the sheep is responsible for the leader it follows .
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# 638 : Friday 2-6-2017 @ 14:56
 
 
Someone said :

Main Brexit pushers probably have business interests that are making huge profits from the current market moves. And they plan on making more each step of the way, whatever the cost to society.

But we have to remember that people vote for it. They had all the information at hand: there is always mis-information, has always been, will always be. From both sides.
But people chose to leave. Now they have to face the music, and they cannot just blame those who told them to leave: the sheep is responsible for the leader it follows .

This is a very common response/answer to every brexit problem ," the people voted for it" but it's disingenuous because the British don't have a written constitution they don't have referendums usually and the referendum they had was only advisory their parliament was supposed to manage the process but it was hijacked by the Tory right, the leave result is accepted but whats not accepted is a blank cheque Tory wishlist which is where the problems are popping up because what the maytoryukip manifesto showed was raw Tory ideology and the maybot can't cover that up by repeating nonsensical brexit blather.
Looks like there might be a hung parliament which means the sheep have turned
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# 639 : Friday 2-6-2017 @ 15:22
 
 
Someone said :

This is a very common response/answer to every brexit problem ," the people voted for it" but it's disingenuous because the British don't have a written constitution they don't have referendums usually and the referendum they had was only advisory their parliament was supposed to manage the process but it was hijacked by the Tory right, the leave result is accepted but whats not accepted is a blank cheque Tory wishlist which is where the problems are popping up because what the maytoryukip manifesto showed was raw Tory ideology and the maybot can't cover that up by repeating nonsensical brexit blather.
Looks like there might be a hung parliament which means the sheep have turned

The absence of a written constitution is absolutely not an issue here.

If they had ignored the outcome of the referendum, like the French on Lisbon, or did the Irish "let's run it again till we get the outcome we want", there would have been murder about how undemocratic the process was.

This is why calling an election to get a brand new parliament is the only rational way to deal with the issue: ensure that the will of the people is consulted a second time, to confirm which parliament will implement the desired Brexit.

If she wins, even by a small margin, then it will be proof that the people do want to "hard" Brexit that the hard-right wants.

If Labour wins, then they will feel the pressure from Scotland and Western-Northern Ireland to get a second vote, and/or independence consultations, depending on how well the regional-lefts will have performed.

So I repeat and confirm what I said (maybe not what you heard):
- People were not tricked in to Brexit, they decided based on all the information they decided to believe from either side;
- People now have another say to decide how softly or hardly they want to be screwed.
(May thought that a quicky would be in her favour, we will see if she gets a tip for swallowing...)
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# 640 : Friday 2-6-2017 @ 19:24
 
 
Someone said :

The absence of a written constitution is absolutely not an issue here.

If they had ignored the outcome of the referendum, like the French on Lisbon, or did the Irish "let's run it again till we get the outcome we want", there would have been murder about how undemocratic the process was.

This is why calling an election to get a brand new parliament is the only rational way to deal with the issue: ensure that the will of the people is consulted a second time, to confirm which parliament will implement the desired Brexit.

If she wins, even by a small margin, then it will be proof that the people do want to "hard" Brexit that the hard-right wants.

If Labour wins, then they will feel the pressure from Scotland and Western-Northern Ireland to get a second vote, and/or independence consultations, depending on how well the regional-lefts will have performed.

So I repeat and confirm what I said (maybe not what you heard):
- People were not tricked in to Brexit, they decided based on all the information they decided to believe from either side;
- People now have another say to decide how softly or hardly they want to be screwed.
(May thought that a quicky would be in her favour, we will see if she gets a tip for swallowing...)

the reality is the conservatives can't deliver a deal that would be economically good for the uk given their idealogy so maybe they want to be forced into a coalition with the lib dems again ?
They will do anything to protect their city and its access to the single market , their whole deal strategy is based on that , that's why they are probably so frustrated by the EU who want to get into the details of the divorce immediately.
The Torys might glance at other things but their priority is always big bucks.
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# 641 : Tuesday 6-6-2017 @ 12:18
 
 
The EU side is waiting patiently to negotiate with either David Davis oh no oops he's being replaced by Gummer

Keep saying strong and stable strong and stable giggle conservatives

Meanwhile the labour team is being led by Keith starmer a barrister


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# 642 : Tuesday 6-6-2017 @ 13:18
 
 
We shall found out what the people decide next week.
It is one of those where it is all in the hand of the voters.
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# 643 : Friday 9-6-2017 @ 06:32
 
 
Will be interesting to hear the noises that will come from potential coalition partners.
The parliament is only truly "hanged" if no coalition can be formed to secure a majority vote on key issues, especially the passing of money bills.
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# 644 : Friday 9-6-2017 @ 06:35
 
 
Will this election result affect brexit ?
The conservatives have lost their mandate for what they wanted to do and labour havent won theirs.
If the conservatives are to win dup support they have to guarantee single market access and a frictionless border so theyll have to have a rethink however without a majority they cant deliver.
Labour didnt win but could they form a progressive government with the other parties ?
Remains to be seen.
What brexit would they deliver in this case , well the snp want single market access as do plaid cymru so whatever happens they are going to have to reach consensus on brexit which is what the electorate wanted.


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# 645 : Friday 9-6-2017 @ 07:12
 
 
Someone said :
Will be interesting to hear the noises that will come from potential coalition partners.
The parliament is only truly "hanged" if no coalition can be formed to secure a majority vote on key issues, especially the passing of money bills.

Its hung if they cant form a government and get the queen to say their speech
But with fixed term parliaments they cant call another election unless 2/3 vote for it so its a period of instability while they tack possible coalitions together and its not said that they can hold and at the same time this will generate massive econimic instability caused by sterlings value
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