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# 856 : Tuesday 9-1-2018 @ 22:41
 
 
Someone said :
Still getting high on brexit, you've got an addiction and need to see a Doctor.

Delete please, my finger is jumpy today?

Your finger is what
I reckon it's exhausted and probably a bit smelly...give it a rest
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# 857 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 09:23
 
 
Oh the boys Davis and Hammond have gone to Germany begging for a financial services deal and they are asking business leaders - unfortunately they tried that before and it didn't work it's a bit weird that the brexshit mantra was the Germans as they export so much to the UK would be the ones begging but looky kooky the Germans have dignity and it's the UK gov that has to roll up with it's caravan ....hmmm
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# 858 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 10:59
 
 
Someone said :

Your finger is what
I reckon it's exhausted and probably a bit smelly...give it a rest

Yeah ok, Thank you Einstein.
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# 859 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 11:53
 
 
Someone said :

Yeah ok, Thank you Einstein.

You're like so welcome , Beaker .
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# 860 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 12:15
 
 
You guys should get a room.
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# 861 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 18:04
 
 
Someone said :
You guys should get a room.

Keep spelling like you is and he is going to be all over you very soon ....i see your game
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# 862 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 18:09
 
 
Pornohub published their by country usage number 1 USA number 2 UK .... no wonder they can't organise brexit ...its not just Damien green ...
Ireland doesn't even feature on the list
All that wanking I wonder where they import their tissues from ? Now that's a growth industry
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# 863 : Wednesday 10-1-2018 @ 21:25
 
 
Someone said :
You guys should get a room.

Sounds like a plan, a bullet and a gun will get me in a room with him.
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# 864 : Thursday 11-1-2018 @ 13:33
 
 
Someone said :

Sounds like a plan, a bullet and a gun will get me in a room with him.

Wear a gas mask apparently he doesn't wash but you evidently like that

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# 865 : Thursday 11-1-2018 @ 13:42
 
 
Farage wants a second referendum it's a comedy of 2 acts , after all the damage they've inflicted on their economy it's u turn time ....
He had a little chat with Barnier probably he just doesn't want to lose his parliament salary still though telling the British to vote again because they didn't get it right the first time how embarrassing
It won't happen it's s democratic deficit , they have to leave and they can have a referendum to rejoin but unless they can prove there was something wrong with the referendum ...
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# 866 : Friday 12-1-2018 @ 11:04
 
 
Someone said :

[...] they have to leave and they can have a referendum to rejoin but unless they can prove there was something wrong with the referendum ...

Not at all: if they want to not leave, there still is time, as discussed before, from a legal point of view.

If your Mum is going to the shops and asks you if you want milk. And you say no. But then you text her when she is still in the shop and you say you change your mind... Will she tell you to fuck off?
Not unless she is an uncaring harpy.

If you shout at your mother "I hate you and I am moving out of the garage next month to do my music with Johnny and Cleaver". And comes the end of the month the weed has worn off and you realized you'll never be The Virgin Prunes ... Is there not case for you to come back to her with your tail between your legs and ask to stay after all?

Of course there is.
Europe, like a loving mother, will provide. After a scorn and slap maybe, but she will. Maybe you will need to finally earn your allowance at 53... but she will.
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# 867 : Friday 12-1-2018 @ 12:29
 
 
Someone said :

Not at all: if they want to not leave, there still is time, as discussed before, from a legal point of view.

Oh
Where is the result of the court case on whether art 50 can be reversed you have it?
If It can't be you are wrong again.

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# 868 : Friday 12-1-2018 @ 12:49
 
 
Someone said :

Oh
Where is the result of the court case on whether art 50 can be reversed you have it?
If It can't be you are wrong again.

As discussed before, there is no need for a court case to say that the scenario of reversibility is technically possible.
Article 50 is an "intention": unless you can prove that it is legally irreversible.... then it is reversible!
The truth is that Article 50 can lead to not withdrawing after all, without having to "pull out of Article 50": simply by agreeing that the new relationship will be the old relationship... simply by agreeing that none of the treaties that will cease to apply, and tat the withdrawal agreement is agreeing to not withdraw!


Article 50:

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention . In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State , setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.

- The UK notified the European Council of its intention.
- The Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State.
- Treaties cease from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement
--- > If no agreement is found, it is 2 years after notification
--- > They can also agree, if no agreement is made within 2 years, to "unanimously decides to extend this period"... to give more time for an agreement

Thus they could agree, if the UK changed its mind, to find an agreement that they withdraw their notice and all goes back to normal.
As long as they have not left, there is no requirement to re-apply.

So the only impediment to stay after all would be a POLITICAL , not LEGAL , issue. It would require Europe not agreeing to the UK "staying after all".

If they UK asked to stay after all, the EU would have a political choice: it woudl be hard not to say yes, based on what the Union stands for and the UK's role in its establishment. But it would then agree such things as "no more rebate"...

There is no formal "withdrawal of the intention to withdraw" process in the treaty, but there is no indication that the notice is irreversible! Simply because short of withdrawing their intention to withdraw, they could always "agree to remain after all."
The "future relationship" could be a status quo ...

Just like a Tenant giving a notice to leave to their Landlord, could have a change of heart and agree with the Landlady that they will stay after all. Maybe at the price of a change in conditions... But no judge will evict that tenant or demand a new Lease to be drawn if a crazy neighbor says that its not fair to not withdraw when they say they notified that they intended to!


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# 869 : Friday 12-1-2018 @ 18:41
 
 
Maybe they will u turn would be great
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# 870 : Sunday 14-1-2018 @ 21:41
 
 
Someone said :

Just like a Tenant giving a notice to leave to their Landlord, could have a change of heart and agree with the Landlady that they will stay after all. Maybe at the price of a change in conditions... But no judge will evict that tenant or demand a new Lease to be drawn if a crazy neighbor says that its not fair to not withdraw when they say they notified that they intended to!

Maybe that's why Arlene foster wants to build a semi-detached house next door to us now when, two weeks ago she was letting her dog out to pee on our Rosebushes..
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