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Migration To The European Union - What To Do?
 
# 1411 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 10:40
 
 
Someone said :
Police presence is massive when there are demonstrations, especially when it's a far right one, because there's almost always a counter-demonstration and without the police there, things would turn nasty.

They can't however be everywhere at every given time, I think most of the vandalism happened far from where the demo was taking place.

Do you think the situation is set to worsen?
The anger towards the migrants appears to be rising in Germany as a whole..
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# 1412 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 10:50
 
 
Someone said :

Do you think the situation is set to worsen?
The anger towards the migrants appears to be rising in Germany as a whole..

Yes, I think it will get worse, unfortunately.

Arson attacks on refugee homes and residential centres are not uncommon. Not too long ago someone randomly fired a gunshot at a refugee centre in Darmstadt (only an hour away from Frankfurt) fortunately no one was seriously injured but someone could have died as a result.

German society seems to become polarised between those who are strongly against refugees and migrants and those who are in favour of keep welcoming them. Maybe this is only a perception, I'm not sure.

But I think it's clear the NYE attacks have given rise to an escalation in anti-foreign sentiment.

I mean, it's not just refugees being attacked. These small business owners very likely were never refugees and are most likely Turkish people who've been in Germany for a long, long time.

Anti-foreig sentiment seems to be stronger in the East of Germany, which is still poorer and with higher unemployment than the West.


Here's a very long but very good article on the on Der Spiegel's International site:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cologne-attacks-trigg etc ...

It tries to establish what happen on NYE and the fallout from these attacks, how it changed the national mood, the political debate, etc.

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# 1413 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 17:42
 
 
On New Years Eve in Dublin I saw groups of armed Gardai on the streets, surely German cities have the same? If not more.

Although, I was surprised to see armed police in Dublin! It's a fairly unusual occurance.
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# 1414 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 17:55
 
 
Someone said :
On New Years Eve in Dublin I saw groups of armed Gardai on the streets, surely German cities have the same? If not more.

Although, I was surprised to see armed police in Dublin! It's a fairly unusual occurance.

Yes, and according to an anonymous police officer quoted in the article there were more than usual, though not as many as they would have wanted:

"His street shift began at 10 p.m. and he had been assigned the area around the cathedral and some of the main streets nearby. Some 80 riot police from the 14th Company were on duty that night, which was twice as many as had been patrolling the streets the previous year -- an increase that was largely due to fears of terrorist attacks. The Cologne police station had requested the full complement of 124 riot police, but the state police headquarters denied the request."
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# 1415 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:00
 
 
Germany welcomed them with open arms. Now they are having problems already. When are people going to realise that they are opportunists. I hope we dont get them in this country.
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# 1416 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:13
 
 
Someone said :
Germany welcomed them with open arms. Now they are having problems already. When are people going to realise that they are opportunists. I hope we dont get them in this country.

Them?

Who are "them"?
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# 1417 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:17
 
 
We have enough problems with the local councils housing the knackers who proceed to rob every house in the area without importing more problems.
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# 1418 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:25
 
 
Some very unwelcomed language there connect.

What do you you propose we do about it? What are you doing about it?

Isn't it human nature that everyone wants a home? If you were in a tough situation and a situation to live somewhere else came to be, would you say no to it? I would have my doubts - yet all to often people who seek that change are blamed.

How anyone can take a wide sweeping dislike to a community with its many individuals is beyond me
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# 1419 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:29
 
 
Someone said :
We have enough problems with the local councils housing the knackers who proceed to rob every house in the area without importing more problems.

There is just so much wrong with that sentence. What do you mean by knackers? What area? What has burglary got to do with accepting and integrating refugees?
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# 1420 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:31
 
 
They? The Muslim so called refugees. Do you not know what topic you are discussing?
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# 1421 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:34
 
 
Muslim refugee knackers robbing all the houses in the area? Sounds horrible.
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# 1422 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:36
 
 


Some of the things I've read in this thread makes me wish the fucking lot of us were dumped into the Atlantic and drown before we saw Ellis Island.

We're clearly a nation of forgetful, ungrateful, unwelcoming, begrudging, paranoid and racist cunts.
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# 1423 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:37
 
 
Rural communities are expected to accept knackers/travellers. Housed by the local council. Of course the council officials who make these decisions will ensure that they are not living near them
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# 1424 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:40
 
 
Someone said :
Rural communities are expected to accept knackers/travellers. Housed by the local council. Of course the council officials who make these decisions will ensure that they are not living near them

Maybe we could organize a citizen exchange with you.
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# 1425 : Tuesday 12-1-2016 @ 22:44
 
 
Don't know connect. Theres Travellers all over the place. Sometimes people dont even recognise them

Rural communities are not expected to accept - they are encouraged to understand that our communities are not mono-cultural and that cultural diversity is something that can be both beautiful and rewarding, rather then forever negative. We are not talking about objects, but people - and immigrants, be they economic or other deep needs deserve respect and care. Some in Ireland seems very quick to forget that we were once those seeking help (and still now if we look at those leaving the country for employment).


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