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Surrogacy For Gay Couples: Yeah Or Nay?
 
# 1 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 09:40
 
 
How do you stand on the issue of surrogacy for gay couples, as an alternative to adoption?

Surrogacy might soon be funded by the State, especially for women who find themselves unable to conceive for medical reasons, as part of their funding of IFV.

Would you be for or against surrogacy in general?
Only in favor for straight couples?
In favor of it, except for male couples?
Against it in general on ethical ground, or on moral grounds, or on other grounds?
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# 2 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 10:04
 
 
Where did you get that surrogacy will be funded by the state?
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# 3 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 10:16
 
 
Someone said :
Where did you get that surrogacy will be funded by the state?

I did not get it anywhere, that it will be .
I got that it might be . As part of their guidelines around the funding of IVF.

Someone said :

And a set of legal guidelines governing highly controversial fertility-related issues - ranging from embryo implantation to stem cell research - are also currently being finalised.

[...]

Among the more contentious areas to be covered are sperm and egg and embryo donation for assisted human reproduction. The guidelines will also include surrogacy and pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) of embryos.

After all, surrogacy is often happening in the form of IVF.
(And be "often" I do not mean "only" or "always". I mean "often".)


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# 4 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 11:54
 
 
I'm a bit uncomfortable with it, I'm not against it but if I had fertility issues I wouldn't choose that option. I just don't think there are many women who would do it for altruistic reasons and I don't think anyone should be paid to do it either.
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# 5 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 12:16
 
 
If we regulate surrogacy, then there should be no distinction between same-sex and mixed-sex couples.

The real question is whether we should allow surrogacy, and if so, what rules should go with it and how should they be enforced. At one end of a spectrum, permitting commercial surrogacy gives rise to concerns about poorer or vulnerable women being exploited. On the other hand, a complete ban would exclude the possibility (as happened in Ireland recently) of a sister agreeing to be the surrogate, where there clearly was no concern that exploitation was involved.
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# 6 : Sunday 4-9-2016 @ 15:31
 
 
Someone said :
If we regulate surrogacy, then there should be no distinction between same-sex and mixed-sex couples.

The real question is whether we should allow surrogacy, and if so, what rules should go with it and how should they be enforced. At one end of a spectrum, permitting commercial surrogacy gives rise to concerns about poorer or vulnerable women being exploited. On the other hand, a complete ban would exclude the possibility (as happened in Ireland recently) of a sister agreeing to be the surrogate, where there clearly was no concern that exploitation was involved.

But in the Irish case you mention, there were serious ethical questions raised about the sister being the birth mother of her niece/nephew.
The adoptive mother should have gone through the adoption process: either be found suitable to adopt the child of (her husband + her sister), in which case happy days; or be unsuitable, in which case the best interest of the child is not to be raised by her...

I tend to agree with the current Irish legislation that the birth mother is always considered to be the mother for all intent and purposes, and that she can only discharge her duties and rights through an adoption process.
As for the father, in case of marriage he is assumed to be the legal father, until proven that he is not the biological father (in some cases).

I must say that I disagree with surrogacy in general.
Especially when it results in creating orphans of [birth] mother on purpose. (Note that orphans are not only bereft of their parents, even if it is the most common usage of the term...)

I totally agree with adoption as a right of existing children to find a stable, loving family. (Adoption is not a "right" of the prospective parents)
Surrogacy is aiming at creating children so as to make them adoptable by someone other than their birth mother.
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