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# 211 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:05
 
 
they're crazier than usual on national security issues and he's getting more crazed
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# 212 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:07
 
 
That's what America voted for.
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# 213 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:12
 
 
America voted for Hilary but the electoral college elected Donald
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# 214 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:14
 
 
and?
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# 215 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:15
 
 
Someone said :
and?

When you need correcting you need correcting
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# 216 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 15:20
 
 
It's their rules.
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# 217 : Thursday 4-1-2018 @ 21:20
 
 
Someone said :
That's what America voted for.

@sfiderman, Sugartits did not say "who" but what.
But even if he had...

Someone said :
America voted for Hilary but the electoral college elected Donald

Technically the majority of US Americans voted for Hillary's representatives on the electoral college. Not for her*.
But the United States of America is not electing its president directly by a majority rule: it is a federation of States.

Thus "America" voted by proxy for Donald Trump via its electoral college, which is the indirect system that "Americans" have adopted and always respected.

Do I need correcting?


* Some ballots have her name, others her and her representatives, alongside other ballot-less systems like caucuses. Of course people were casting their vote in her favor, but were not voting for her election directly...


Now, if "America" wanted to choose its president differently, the "Americans" would have to change their ways. And any such consultation would no doubt be done at a federal level, state by state, rather than on a national majority...


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# 218 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 00:26
 
 
Someone said :

@sfiderman, Sugartits did not say "who" but what.
But even if he had...


Technically the majority of US Americans voted for Hillary's representatives on the electoral college. Not for her*.
But the United States of America is not electing its president directly by a majority rule: it is a federation of States.

Thus "America" voted by proxy for Donald Trump via its electoral college, which is the indirect system that "Americans" have adopted and always respected.

Do I need correcting?


* Some ballots have her name, others her and her representatives, alongside other ballot-less systems like caucuses. Of course people were casting their vote in her favor, but were not voting for her election directly...


Now, if "America" wanted to choose its president differently, the "Americans" would have to change their ways. And any such consultation would no doubt be done at a federal level, state by state, rather than on a national majority...

There is no doubt that Hilary won the popular vote and the donald won the electoral college .

You are obviously wrong because jumping into a thread and into a post just to argue and then writing 3009 words instead of trying to be succinct well franchement yawn
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"That's what America voted for" assumes a majority of Americans and as you yourself wrote there wasn't a majority of Americans....
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# 219 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 01:55
 
 
It assumes no such thing.
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# 220 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 11:28
 
 
Someone said :
It assumes no such thing.

What does " that's what America voted for " mean then? Or would you like to actually say what you meant?
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# 221 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 11:40
 
 
America, didn't vote for Trump and even though he ended up being elected. A number of factors have to be considered, Clinton was a bad candidate/Russians helped Trump/Not enough people turned out to vote(protest)/Electoral college elected Trump and the US are now waking up too a Nightmare Potus.
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# 222 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 11:44
 
 
Anybody ordered the book or getting their hands on it soon?
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# 223 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 11:45
 
 
Someone said :
Anybody ordered the book or getting their hands on it soon?

When I run low, on toilet paper and want to treat myself.
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# 224 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 11:47
 
 
Someone said :
America, didn't vote for Trump and even though he ended up being elected. A number of factors have to be considered, Clinton was a bad candidate/Russians helped Trump/Not enough people turned out to vote(protest)/Electoral college elected Trump and the US are now waking up too a Nightmare Potus.

You mean _to a nightmare potus. Because too= as well
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# 225 : Friday 5-1-2018 @ 15:13
 
 
Someone said :

[...]
"That's what America voted for" assumes a majority of Americans and as you yourself wrote there wasn't a majority of Americans....

It does not.
You assumed it suggested that.
"America" is not necessarily "the majority of Americans".

"America" is "the collective decision made according to the agreed procedures", in this case the majority of the electoral college.
If you had assume that @Sugartits may have been right, instead of jumping guns, you would have applied the philosophical "principal of charity", and assumed that this was probably his position. (Which it may still not be, but then if we disagree it is not on the surface anymore...)

Otherwise if you push your "logic" to the extreme, why limit the "America chose" to the voters? Why not say that "America's choice" was for neither because neither got the majority of registered voter ?
If you ignore the way America is actually choosing, then anything goes. Why not go by the number of people eligible to vote (even if not registered) to reflect abstention (when registered) and non-registration?
Blank, null and non-registered are not part of the way the elections work? Let's call that Fake News and ignore how the election actually work, by putting together numbers that do not mean anything...

[By the way, if you had known your stuff, you would have spotted my obvious mistake about caucuses, which are used during the "primaries" phase but not for the presidential vote]
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